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A mishap on our visit to Versailles

May 30, 2017

Versailles Palace is the famous French Palace built before and used during the time of the French Revolution and is a little far from Paris. We bought tickets to visit Versailles with the tour company that operates the Hop on Hop off Paris. As our Hop on Hop off 24 hour ticket was still valid that morning, we went by Metro to the Pyramid station near where the Hop on Hop off office is.

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We boarded the first Hop on Hop off bus to go to the Tour company that would take us to Versailles. We had a nice bus ride around Paris again, going round the loop.

There were not many tourists and the top was nearly empty we had a nice go around Paris by bus.

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We passed by the Notre Dame Cathedral of Paris again.

 

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Also the magnificent Arch de Triumph built on order of Napoleon, the most famous French Emperor (actually he is a Corsican and his native land is in Italy now).

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After passing the Maritime Museum, we had to get off near the Eiffel Tower as it is the nearest hop off stop to the Tour office. We had hopped off at the Maritime Museum and walked down to the Eiffel Tower the previous day so I do not know which usual route the HOHO bus takes.

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Looking at the photos I had taken, we had passed in front of the Tour office without realizing we should get off here.

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After passing through a boulevard, and going for some time, I noticed a building which was quite far from the Eiffel and which I had observed on the HOHO bus tour the previous day.

I got up and asked the bus driver. He said the usual route was blocked that day because of the Marathon and they had bypassed the Eiffel stops. We got off the bus and walked back. I did not see the Eiffel anywhere and checked the map and noticed that we could not make it in time by walking. I stopped and waited for a free taxi to come along. There was not much time to get to the tour company in time, and luckily, a vacant taxi came along.

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I was surprised that the taxi was bigger than usual ones and a Mercedes. Furthermore, the taxi driver, a white middle east looking man, was dressed smartly in a suit. It would be a limousine and I was worried about the fare. However, it was a meter taxi and the rate was reasonable. When we got off, the Eiffel tower was not in sight and I asked him whether it might be the wrong place. He indicated to the opposite side of the road and drove off.

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We arrived in time, but had to wait for others before our Touir guide called us and we all boarded the Tour Bus to Versailles.

During the time we waited, I walked around for a short distance and found an interesting shop selling souvenrs including aprons, French style.

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Unexpected train ride by the Lake Geneva

May 25, 2017

I had planned to visit Lucerne, Switzerland and the Mount Titlis, the year round snow capped Swiss mountain in the Alps.

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While in Venice 23 May 2016

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At the train station, Venice 23 May 16

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Boat ride in Venice 23 May 16

While in Venice, I booked seats for the train to Lucerne. The clerk booked tickets for Lausanne but I thought it was the way Lucerne is written in Italian or Swiss.

The next day we boarded the train to Lausanne thinking we were going to Lucerne / Luzern.

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First view of the snow capped mountains of the Swiss Alps

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Snow capped Swiss Alps

It was only when we arrived at Lausanne and the taxi-man told me that the Hotel we booked in Lucerne was too far away and he could not take us there, but to get a train there that I knew about the error. As it was dark and late, after 8, we stayed at a hotel and after breakfast the next morning, went to the station to go to Lucerne and got tickets for Lucerne / Luzern.

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Tulip Inn where we stayed

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Garden at the hotel in Lausanne

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Lausanne 24 May 16

As we got to the platform 1, with 5 minutes to spare, a train came in and we boarded it. There was not many people on board and I asked a few passengers whether it was the train to Lucerne. The do not understand me but a man in coveralls came along and when I asked him, he shook his head and said no and indicated that we had to take the next train. As we were about to get down, the door closed and the train began to move. Soon we got to get the spectacular view of the Lake Geneva, twice, as we had to return from the next stop which was 3 stations away.

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Lake Geneva

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view of the Alps

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Swiss country side

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trees

Without my 2 errors of wrong destination and boarding the wrong train 5 minutes earlier, I would not have the nice unforgettable view of the Swiss Alps, Lake Geneva and countryside.

Shin Upagote ရွင္ဥပဂုတ္

March 4, 2012

Shin U Pa Gota, the “saint” of all waters. According to legend, Shin U Pa Gota grew up a troubled boy until the Buddha visited him and brought him instant enlightenment. From that moment, he spent his time meditating in the Irrawaddy.

He is the saint of boatmen, of fishermen, of anyone who relies on the river.

The bamboo rafts with Shin U Pa Gota images are floated down the rivers during the monsoon and wherever the raft comes to shore it is greeted with huge reverence and a ceremony will be held. This will sometimes be just a day or maybe stretch into days.

Then, the villagers will set the raft loose so it can continue down the river, bringing blessings to the next village that takes it in.

Another legend is that this “arahat” Uppagutta was a diciple of Lord Buddha and was always late to take his lunch before noon.That is why his statue is always shown with the alms bowl in his hand and looking up to the sun to see whether it has passed the meridien.

The Burmese believe that Shin Upagote still lives in a floating brazen [brass] palace in the southern ocean, and that he too can be invoked to come by a prayer of special formula, and that his mere invisible presence will prevent storms and floods. Some believe also that he can be invoked when danger in the form of some physical violence threatens.

Shin Upagote {rhin U.pa.goat} seems to have been an entire creation of Mahayana Buddhism, unless he was the same monk as Moggaliputta-Tissa, who presided over the Third Buddhist [{p133}] Council, as some scholars would maintain. Shin Upagote was believed to have tamed the arch enemy of Buddhism, the great God Mara himself. Asoka was preparing to hold a great festival in honour of the religion, and the monks, realizing that God Mara would do everything in his power to destroy the festival, sent for Upagote. Upagote, by his miraculous powers, not only defeated Mara in a great struggle, but also converted him to Buddhism.

Golden Triangle

April 12, 2011

My younger son Linn Zaw Win, who has been in Singapore for nearly 3 years planned to visit home for a week in February 2011 during my days off. He could not book flight around the Chinese New Year and had booked the trip at a later date. I planned a short trip to Thaton in quest of the Thuwunnabhumi remains at TaikKaLarr and also to visit the Mya Seinn Taung  pagoda’ the KyaikHtiHsaung pagoda at ZokeThoke and maybe the NwarrLaBo. Hill pagoda, places I haven’t been to. However, I was sent by my company to work at the AD-1 Drilling rig in Phichit, northern Thailand and I missed seeing LZW and the trip. Instead, I planned to travel around Thailand after finishing my duty till 28th March and arranged for Pyone to come on the 20th.

After finishing my last night duty on the morning of 20th March 2011, I went to Bangkok as early as possible to meet Pyone who came with the morning MAI flight. The ETA was 10:20 and I had told her to wait for me till 2 pm. When I got to Suvannabhumi airport at noon, I did not see her at the rendezvous point and phoned my office to find out whether she had contacted them. On hearing she did not, I asked the Information about the MAI flight and learned that it had landed at 11:45 and I knew I have to wait at least half an hour for her. She told me later that those who came on board late were several youngsters! MAI has a reputation of waiting for VIP passengers!!!

Thus, instead of visiting Thuwunnabhumi, I got to Suvannabhumi airport 3 times!

We went from Suvannabhumi airport to Mo Chit bus terminal and got on the first bus to Chiang Mai. It passed through Nakhun Sawan, the town near where I had worked at 2 oil exploration wells. After having dinner beyond Nakhun Sawan, we reached Chaing Mai bus terminal at 3 a.m. The tuk tuk man offered to take us to Rux Thai, a guest house and when he showed me the location on the map, I knew it is not far from the night bazzarr and agreed to go there and have a look. My colleague Moe Ko Oo had suggested the Night Bazzarr Inn to me and I planned to go there if we are not satisfied with the one the tuk tuk man took us to. The price and room was acceptable and we checked in. I also booked the tour to Chiang Rai, the Golden triangle and the long neck village before going to the room. I had tried to book the trip on line earlier, but as I did not have any account, I could not make any payment and was unable to book. We were to be collected at 7 a.m. but breakfast was unavailable anywhere nearby prior to the time. We ordered breakfast at the guest house at 7. The tour guide arrived just as coffee was served and I told the receptionist to have our breakfast packed. We had coffee and took the breakfast packets and followed the guide. There were several people already on the minibus. We went to several places and more got on till at one place, the guide told us that a person will come and we waited till he arrived. The minibus was full and off we went to Chiang Rai. It would take the whole day and the return would be late at 8:30 p.m.

The first stop was at the Mae Khajan hot water springs and then we were shown the Wat Rong Khun / White temple. We passed through Chiang Rai and got to Mae Sai. There we went on a boat trip on the Mekong to view the Golden Triangle together with another small group.

The Golden Triangle was one of the world’s infamous places where opium and heroin were produced and traded once. They were traded with gold and the area was a no man’s land at the junction of Myanmar, Thailand and Laos, thus the name Golden Triangle.

Laos is the other shore at the place where we got on the boat in Mekong river and there is a large sitting Buddha on the Thai side not far from the jetty. Once past it, the Thaung Yinn river enters the Mekong. It flows from south to north and on the other side of the Thaung Yinn is Myanmar. Beyond the place where the Thaung Yinn joins the Mekong is Myanmar on the west side and Laos on the east. Not far from the junction is the Golden Triangle Hotel on Myanmar soil. It was built and operated by a Thai group and there is a casino as with the Andaman Resort on the ThaHtay Kyunn near Kawthaung. Both Myanmar andThailand have anti gambling laws but it is strictly enforced in Thailand so Thais operate and gamble on Myanmar soil!

Myanmar is a strange country where breaking laws seems to be a national past time. We can jaywalk, sell on platforms, honk horns in prohibited Yangon, play 2 and 3 digit Chae lottery openly, operate casinos, launder black money easily, etc.  It has been called “Burma, the land where men wear skirts and women smoke cigars”. Of course Myanmar men wear longyis / sarongs and Myanmar ladies smoke large cheroots, not cigars. However, we have witnessed: Myanmar’s way to Socialism, in which Socialism is explained in Buddhist terminology; 15, 25, 35, 45, 75 and 90 Kyat notes; the Sitt Hman Tae. Democracy; a unique country where everyone should visit, not only for the hospitality of the people, but also for the unspoilt beaches, the many wonders including the long neck people, the Kayans, which Thailand is using as a tourist attraction because they find Thailand a better place to live (also do the millions of Myanmar workers).

There is a Chinese operated economic zone in Laos and it is still unfinished. After it is open, much trade and profits will pass through Laos!

India through the eyes of a Myanmar visitor: urban India

January 17, 2011

toll booth

I have seen urban India in Indian movies, but this is the first time I witnessed it personally. Even then, I did not get to the metropolitan cities of Kolkata and Mumbai. I only got to Dehli, New Dehli and passed through Patna, Agra and a large city whose name I did not get.

security in the restaurant due to demonstrations that pass while we were having lunch

at the restaurant in Agra where we had lunch twice

fuel station

This collection of photos were taken on the way from Dehli to Agra and the highway had Factories, Warehouses, Universities and Teaching facilities on the side nearly all the way so that farms and other scenery was seen only for a short time.

Agra is a large city which contains the Taj Mahal and Red Fort.

I will post photos of more urban scenes and that of New Dehli separately.

IM – 1 Rangoon Class of 69 / 76 get togethers Dec 2010 Jan 2011

January 4, 2011

lunch at Golden Duck (KanDawMin / Cantonment lake) on 30-Dec 10 for ko Mya Thein who returned from Taiwan

at Cherry's son's wedding dinner at Western Park (Thakhinmya park) on 1-Jan 11

I have to return to Mann oil field this evening and will miss our Reunion and Obeisance ceremonies marking the 35 year anniversary of our graduation of the Class of 69 / 76 Institute of Medicine I, Rangoon.

However, I had the luck to meet some of my classmates during Pyone’s birthday, lunch at Golden Duck (KanDawMin / Cantonment lake) on 30-Dec 10 for ko Mya Thein who returned from Taiwan (he went back yesterday 3-Jan 11) and at Cherry’s son’s wedding dinner at Western Park (Thakhinmya park) on 1-Jan 11

Body weight control and exercise for your health

November 24, 2010

For health, everyone should check their body weight and calculate their BMI body mass index to find out whether their body weight is within the desired range, overweight or obese.

Obesity is the problem with developed countries and the well to do in the developing countries!

Body Mass Index / BMI should be between 20–25 with the ideal figure being 23. If it is over 25, one is overweight and if over 30, obese.

Body weight is the result of the balance between food intake and energy consumption. There is calorie intake on one side and energy expenditure on the other. If one eats in excess of his energy requirement, the extra food is stored in the body as fat and body weight increases.

To reduce body weight, one has to reduce food intake and increase muscular work to burn out excess fat. To eat more while doing exercise is self defeating.

To begin, reduction of food intake has to be done gradually with the aim to get only about 5 lb weight loss a month. Do not aim to get quicker results as it might not be good for your health, especially if you have medical conditions like diabetes melliltus, hypertension and heart failure which are associated with obesity.

First, reduce your meal intake by a quarter of what you usually eat and cut back on snacks. Snacks are the hidden main problem in body weight problem cases. Do not eat anything if you are not hungry, and then, only eat the minimum that will appease your hunger. Do not have snacks unnecessarily, especially when watching television and having a conversation. Having beer is also a problem as beer and the snacks which are taken both aggravate the problem.

Take plain tea or water if you are thirsty and avoid milk and sugar in beverages including juices. Juices stimulate the appetite and one is left with desire to drink more rather than being satisfied.

Some weight reduction programs that restrict water is also not good for health as one becomes dehydrated and the weight loss is not the real fat reduction, and will revert when one takes fluid to correct the dehydration.

Any food that contains carbohydrate (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.), protein (meat, fish, eggs, etc.) and fat (animal fat, fish fat, oil, butter, margarine, lard, etc.) taken in excess of body requirements is stored in the body as fat. Of these, fat has double the calorific value than the other 2, so intake of 1 G of extra fat is equivalent to taking 2 G of extra carbohydrate and protein.

To burn out the excess fat, one has to do vigorous exercise till the body secretes adrenalin. Adrenalin produces glycogenolysis, breaking the glycogen stored in muscle and liver and increase the blood glucose level, thereby suppressing hunger. More important for weight reduction, it also causes lipolysis, breaking down the fats stored in fat cells of adipose tissues, reducing the body fat. Mild exercise, without the secretion of adrenalin is not enough to reduce the body fat and will not reduce body weight.

How does one know whether exercise is sufficient to produce outpouring of adrenalin? If adrenalin is secreted, one has heightened senses and increased heart rate. There will be a sense of breathlessness from the amount of physical exercise required and there will also be sweating for body temperature regulation. One has to exercise up to that stage: breathlessness, pounding heart and sweating to be sure to get weight loss.

My writings / blogs are on google search results!

November 21, 2010

It was while I was searching for Waing Maw on google for the first time, I got a surprise when I found my blog listed in the 4th place. It no longer is.

Journey to the North 2009 November Day-2 25-Nov Part 4 Waing Maw and beyond

December 19, 2009 by nyiwin

Later, when I was first posted the blog: Plate tectonics 101 for the layman (includes females in its traditional usage) / laywoman (for ultra feminists who do not want to be listed under the term layman), I had written about Gondwana but as I could not remember the spelling and had wrote “The whole earth mass once was in continuity and it is called Gwanoland which existed somewhere the current”.

I wanted to improve my blog and expand data about Gondwana so I searched for “Gwanoland” on google and got another surprise with the following result:

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Google has even recorded the only one item on the internet with the wrong word “Gwanoland”, my blog!

Later, as I was searching for “Myanmar ethnic groups” while searching for “Tarongs”, I got the following result:

·  List of ethnic groups in Burma – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Burma (or Myanmar) is an ethnically diverse nation with 135 distinct ethnic groups officially recognized by the Burmese government.
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·  Myanmar Ethnic Groups Hope for Peace, but Prepare for Battle …

10 May 2009 As the military government prepares to adopt a new Constitution, cease-fires with armed ethnic groups are fraying.
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·  Myanmar ethnic groups align against regime – World – IOL …

4 Nov 2010 Bangkok – Six armed ethnic groups in Myanmar have forged an agreement to join forces, fearing they will be attacked by the regime after
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·  Joshua Project – Ethnic People Groups of Myanmar (Burma)

A listing, photos, maps and graphs of the ethnic people groups of Myanmar (Burma) including language, progress scale, percent Evangelical and Christian
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4 Nov 2010 Media Agency: Myanmar’s Ethnic Groups Forge Military Alliance To Fight Off Regime.
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·  Reuters AlertNet – Q+A-Will Myanmar’s ethnic groups agree to junta …

Source: Reuters (For main story, click on [ID:nSGE61806M] By Martin Petty BANGKOK, Feb 10 (Reuters) – Military-ruled Myanmar wants ethnic
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Recent findings of Bronze Age culture in Myanmar, and the early Iron Mons and other ethnic groups because of their higher civilization.  

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Mons or Talaings, an Ethnic Minority Group of Myanmar, the Mon were the first of the modern ethnic groups to migrate into the region,  

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University of Yangon as I remember « Nyiwin’s Blog

Myanmar ethnic groups and their migration into Myanmar …. “Prospects of education in Myanmar”. The New Light of Myanmar.  

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Journey to the North 2009 November Day-2 25-Nov Part 4 Waing Maw and beyond

December 19, 2009 by nyiwin

https://nyiwin.wordpress.com/2009/12/19/journey-to-the-north-2009-november-day-2-25-nov-part-4-waing-maw-and-beyond/

Plate tectonics 101 for the layman (includes females in its traditional usage) / laywoman (for ultra feminists who do not want to be listed under the term layman)

By nyiwin

https://nyiwin.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/plate-tectonics-101-for-the-layman-includes-females-in-its-traditional-usage-laywoman-for-ultra-feminists-who-do-not-want-to-be-listed-under-the-term-layman/

Dr. Ko Ko Gyi’s blog is about my article which I first posted as a “note” in Facebook which later I posted here on WordPress as my blog. He had requested me to use it and agreed, being delighted to have his fans read my blog. He posted it first on WordPress at his blogsite before I did myself. He has acknowledged the source as from me:

SOURCE: Article of Dr U Nyi Win,Myanmar ethnic groups and their migration into Myanmar” published in his FB notes

Dr U Nyi Win : Myanmar ethnic groups and their migration into Myanmar

By drkokogyi

https://drkokogyi.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/dr-u-nyi-win-myanmar-ethnic-groups-and-their-migration-into-myanmar/

Myanmar Prehistory 101: Bilus / Rakkhaiks and Myanmar ethnic groups

https://nyiwin.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/myanmar-prehistory-101-bilus-rakkhaiks-and-myanmar-ethnic-groups/

Myanmar history: who are the Pyus and where are they now?

https://nyiwin.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/myanmar-history-who-are-the-pyus-and-where-are-they-now/

Myanmar history: the origin of Bamars

https://nyiwin.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/myanmar-history-the-origin-of-bamars/

University of Yangon as I remember

By nyiwin

University of Yangon as I remember

I have posted many blogs at my blogsite

Nyiwin’s Blog

they are, in reverse order:

Plate tectonics 101 for the layman (includes females in its traditional usage) / laywoman (for ultra feminists who do not want to be listed under the term layman)

Kalatharpura / Pot country / Tawnte

University of Yangon as I remember

Myanmar ethnic groups and their migration into Myanmar

The caves of Myanmar: MyinMaHti cave

Who is responsible?

Hinthar / Be-Hintha / Brahminy duck / Ruddy Shelduck

Gokteik Viaduct

King Narathu / KalarKya Minn 529-533 M.E. / 1167 to 1170 A.D.

The Pyu nation

Pinn TaLae king, Emperor YoneHle, Pyay king and the Kokangs

The caves of Myanmar

Naypyitaw The Abode of Kings

HtokeKant Thein Temple

Rock temples of Bagan

Bagan territory

My life: my various jobs

Malae and Sanpaenago

The battle of Ngasaunggyan

Tagaung is Bamar territory

History

Unforgettable moments at Tagaung

Little known facts in Myanmar history: P’iao_“one of the tribes of the ‘Gold Teeth Comfortership’

Food for thought: On the road to Mandalay, the Ayeyarwaddy dolphins and the flying fish

a trip to Sriksetra again

AhKaukTaung

Food for thought: Thou shalt not kill

Myanmar history: who are the Pyus and where are they now?

The Myanmar Performing Arts Of The Pyu Period

Myanmar history: the origin of Bamars

Food for thought: getting to Nat Pyay / Heaven

Indians who influenced Myanmar culture: King Asoka / ArThawKa အေသာက မင္းၾကီး

Current Trends in Myanmar Clothes Style and my wandering mind

Safe Water Supply

Modern day Burmese version of Ramayana and Ravana / Yawana (ရာ၀ဏ) / Datha-giri (ဒသဂီရိ)

Airport security scanner / Backscatter X-ray

Ramayana / Yarma LetKhaNar ရာမ လကၡဏာ / ရာမ ဇာတ္ Yama Zatdaw

Suvannabhumi

The rule of law

Vesak Day / Buddha’s Birthday = Kasone full moon day ကဆုန္လျပည့္ေန႕ (Myanmar calendar / PyetKhaDein 1 day in error)

The rain came

More about Bilus / Rakkhites / Ogres

Myanmar Prehistory 101: Bilus / Rakkhaiks and Myanmar ethnic groups

Rakhine history 101

My life_ my many Birthdays

Point to Ponder: things are not what they seem to be

Point to Ponder: The coming of ThaGyarrMinn during Thingyan

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a rose by any name ……

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the urge to write: the makings of a writer

journey to the north Day-5 Part-2 to MaLe and SanPaeNaGo

youngsters and their lives: their desire should be respected by parents

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journey to the north Day-3 meeting Ko Than Lwin

our Burmese calendar is 1 day in error

Are you prepared to face death?

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University of Yangon as I remember

November 13, 2010

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IM-1 rowing team at RUBC 1973 Jan

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Rangoon University Convocation Hall

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During my last days off, I took daily morning walk from my home near the Kamaryut Hledan junction to the Inya bund north end near the International Business Centre with my dog Ah Te and pass beside the University of Yangon both on the way out and return. I usually leave home around 5 a.m. and it is still dark when I passed the University of Yangon campus. As I walked along the Pyay road, the gates of the University of Yangon were closed as it is the whole day, except for the south gate at the Judson Church which although it is closed at 5 a.m., is open when I return around 6 a.m. This is the only gate that is open during the daytime on the side of Pyay road. All have to use the main entrance gate on the University Avenue at the Chancellor road south end as all other gates are closed as has been for the past 2 decades. Although the senior Staff quarters are still occupied, all teaching Departments no longer have regular undergraduate classes except for some diploma courses and some post graduate courses and the campus is deserted except during the many convocations that are still being held there. This may even be phased out as many universities now hold their graduation ceremonies at their campuses.

I have been inside the University of Yangon campus only twice in the past 2 decades and both were for the convocations of my sons, as the University of Medicine 1, Yangon and the University of Computer Sciences, Yangon were still held at the Convocation Hall at the time of their graduations. The Convocation Hall looked like it has always been although there was a plan to rebuild it at one time not long ago, but was overruled by the acamedicians who have much memories of the Convocation Hall.

The Campus was familiar to me since I was young as my mother used to mention about her days at the Inya Hall where she stayed for 4 years prior to the WW II, during the Britrish colonial times, when the University of Yangon was known as Rangoon University. She also mentioned about the Judson College where some of her friends from Moulmein attended. Although she was from Bassein / Pathein, she and her elder sister Daw Kyin Ngwe and niece Daw Kyin Sein had attended the Maw Ta Lane High School as a boarder during their high school years and she had many close Moulmein and Mudon friends, including Daw Than Mya (Prof. Hla Pe), Daw Kyin Ti (U Kyin), auntie Mya (sister of Daw Boke), and auntie Phet Phuu of Mudon. Those who stayed at the Inya Hall with her were Daw Khin Kyi Kyi (U Thein Pe Myint), Daw Kyin Ngwe (my aunt), Daw Boke (Prof. Daw Hla Yee Yee’s mother), Prof. Daw Thin Kyi, Daw Lucy Liu (Sayar Nyein) and many others who I do not remember. Many were her senior but Daw Khin Kyi Kyi was in the same year although they attended different courses. My father attended the B. Sc. Civil Engineering at the BOC’s School of Mining and Engineering near the University football grounds and tennis courts but he did not tell us much about his college days except about his rowing at the RUBC. He took us to the RUBC whenever we visited the Inya Hall and the Thiri Hall where my many cousins stayed during their college days, and also when we went to the University compound Inya lakeside for our picnics. Looking at the boats and the students rowing at the RUBC brought hopes in both me and my elder brother (my classmate too) to row at the RUBC one day and this led us to enroll at the Yay Kyaung Lu Nge Kandawgyi camp during our 8th Standard to row before we reach University.

It was also during my childhood that my parents visited the Tagaung Hall warden’s house frequently to visit my cousin ko Nyein / Sayar Nyein. Ko Nyein / Sayar Nyein was still a bachelor and there were several University footballer selections living with him. On one visit, he gave me the huge American College Dictionary which I still have.

My father had stayed at the Pyay and Tagaung Halls during his time attending the BOC’s school of mining and engineering.

When I was attending Medicine, the Tagaung Hall was a medical female student hostel first, but later became a B. Ed. female student hostel later. My friend Aung Tun, who rowed with me in the same crew went there frequently to visit his girlfriend (now wife) who also rowed with the B. Ed. team.

While I was a Demonstrator in the IM-1 Physiology Department, I had to go along with the LuYeChuns to the ShweWarChiang camp as Medical Officer in 1982 and on the return, the Yangon combined LuYeChun camp was stationed at the Pyay and Tagaung Halls and I stayed at the Pyay Hall for a few days.

My mother used to visit Prof. Daw Thin Kyi at the female B. Ed. hall on Thaton road at the rear of the Institute of Education while she was a warden there. She used to have 2 shaggy dogs. Prof. Daw Thin Kyi had stayed with my mother at the Inya Hall and she was a character. She used to read 2 books at the same time, one beside the other.

When I attended University at the LeikKhone and BOC campus of the Institute of Medicine 1, Rangoon, I rowed at the RUBC and this offered me the opportunity to walk through the Rangoon Arts and Science University many times as I had to take the bus at the Insein road San Yeik Nyein bus stop on my return from RUBC or walk from there if I go to the RUBC directly from home. When we rowed after classes, I walked with friends from the LeikKhone and BOC campus along the Thaton road and through the RASU main compound along the Pagan road and the Sagaing road and out to the Inya road to go to the RUBC. Otherwise, I took the entrance near the Physics lab and either along the Convocation road to the Economics entrance or through the Student Recreation centre and the Arts Hall / former Judson College and by the Judson church and the road in front of the Thiri hall to the gates. There are many GantGaw trees around the Main Library and the Sagaing and Inya roads and I still have memories of the smell of the GantGaw flowers during the Nway / Hot season and the sounds of leaves dropping onto the ground as we walked near the Physics laboratory still fresh in my mind. During the Moe / Rainy season, there was chanting of the Wut Yut AhThinn at night time near the Inya and Yadanar Halls and I heard it frequently whenever our rowing ended late.

There was the Golden Jubilee festival while I was attending the 1st M.B., in which all Yangon Universities participated as they all were once under the Rangoon University. There several other fairs too and during these times I visited the main campus as visitor. But it was different even from the University life in the novels and articles I had read which have University life as the background. During my time there were no longer regular Hall AhNyeins which seemed to be the regular social life before my time. I had read the famous Kaw Leik Jin and other books by ZaWaNa, Thein Pe Myint, Khin Maung Aye (Mandalay) and ThetKaTho Phone Naing about their student days and life at the Rangoon University during their time and they seem to be more colourful compared to mine.

When I was in the 2nd M.B. and attending Physiology classes at the BOC part of the IM-1, Rangoon, I had lunch with friends at the portico in front. There is the University Sports ground directly in front with additional football fields nearby. There are many large ThitTo trees around there and we used to throw down the ThitTo fruits and eat the ripe ones and take the coverings home to have it made into ThitTo NgapiChet which is very good but I have not had it for the past 40 years. Hitting the ThitTo fruit which is smaller than the size of a tennis ball and is situated over 20 feet from the ground is not an easy task and I had never got any ThitTo fruit by myself and just had those shared by my friends.

I also swam at the University swimming pool which is beyond the University Sports ground from the BOC building. I used to walk there along the Thaton road with the University Sports ground on the right and the tennis courts on the left. Although I played a little tennis when I was younger, I did not try tennis during my University student days as buying a tennis racquet would be a problem although not insurmountable. My main interest in sports was in rowing and swimming as I had done both since Middle School.

After U Thant passed away and his remains were returned to Myanmar for burial, I did not visit the KyaikKaSsan grounds where it was held at first while preparations were made for the funeral or participated in the funeral which was to be held at the KyanTaw cemetery. But after the hearst was sidetracked to the RASU compound and the remains laid in State in the Convocation Hall, I visited the campus several times during which I entered the Convocation Hall for the first few times in my life. There were students and people from all sorts of life in the campus with several students making speeches in front of the Convocation Hall on the front stairs. There were also many in the ThatMaGa hall compound preparing for the construction of the tomb. A friend of mine, who was attending the B. Arch. was there for the measuring of the site for the tomb.

On the University Avenue near the Thaton road entrance is the University hospital. This is where my cousin ko Sein It was when the shootings began in 7th July 1962. He dived into the drain until it was over and later told me that there were several injured and dead university students nearby when he left.

When I became a Demonstrator in the Physiology Department of the Institute of Medicine 1, Rangoon, we were given 7th July special duties around the anniversary. Those on duty were relieved of their classes which were combined with another and had to round the assigned corridors. Students asked why I and other demonstrators were strolling and loitering in corridors rather than teaching, I explained about the duty to them. The next question they asked was: what was the occasion? Students of the 1980s who were born in the late 70s had no knowledge of the event: so much for the history knowledge among our young who are taught white washed history and the lack of the freedom of speech and writing since 1962. I do not even have the accurate knowledge of the events leading to the military takeover in 2 March 1962.

The famous Marlar Hall (it is famous because of the bus stop nearby with its name) is now a teaching institution: National Centre for English Language. When it first opened, the Myanmar name was something like AhMyoTharr InGaLeik Sar HtarNa. As the centre is near our office where our crew change bus departs, others saw it first and talked about the new English centre before getting onto the crew change bus. One remarked when English had become AhMyoTharr. Some time later the Myanmar name was changed to InGaLeik BarTharYat AhMyoTharr Baho HtarNa.

Notable alumni

[edit] Politicians

[edit] Academia

  • Hla Pe: Professor of Burmese at the University of London
  • John Furnivall: Scholar on Burma studies and civil servant
  • Nyi Nyi: Deputy Minister of Education (1965–1974), geology professor[6]
  • Pessie Madan: Indian leader of the high-technology research and development sector
  • Pe Maung Tin: Scholar on Pali and Buddhism
  • Pho Kyar: Novelist and education reformist
  • Taw Sein Ko: Archaeologist and Director of the Burma Archaeological Service
  • Than Tun: Historian

[edit] Arts and literature

[edit] References

  1. ^ a b James, Helen (2005). Governance And Civil Society In Myanmar: Education, Health, and Environment. Routledge. ISBN 0-4153-5558-3.
  2. ^ a b c d Khin Maung Kyi (2000). Economic Development of Burma: a Vision and a Strategy. SUP. p. 150. ISBN 9-1888-3616-9.
  3. ^ Ko Yin Aung (1999-12-23). “Prospects of education in Myanmar”. The New Light of Myanmar. http://www.burmalibrary.org/reg.burma/archives/199912/msg00769.html.
  4. ^ Rothenberg, Daniel (Fall 2002). Towards a New Modern Developed Nation. The Journal of the International Institute. http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/journal/vol10no1/rothenberg.htm. Retrieved 22 May 2006. [dead link]
  5. ^ “Myanmar Philately”. Tharaphi. http://tharaphi.webs.com/mm052.html.
  6. ^ Zar Ni. “5” Knowledge, Control and Power: The Politics of Education under Burma’s Military Dictatorship (1962-88). (Ph.D. thesis). University of Wisconsin – Madison. Retrieved 2010-09-15.

Myanmar ethnic groups and their migration into Myanmar

November 12, 2010

I learned in middle school history class that there are 3 main ethnic groups in Myanmar. The Tibeto-Burmans, Mon-Khmers and the Shan and they all came into Myanmar from the north / north-east, current Yunnan province of China.
I also read about articles written by Myanmars who went abroad and were greeted by Indonesians, Malaysians and Fillipinos mistakenly as their countrymen but most Indonesians I noticed have Indian / Arabic features.
Later, when I saw photos of Suharto, Megawatti and many Indonesians who do not have Indian / Arabic features, but look like Myanmars, I thought they might be those of the forefront of Tibeto-Burman migration who went ahead and reached Malaysia and Indonesia and settled there in front of the Bamars who came later and settled in Myanmar. When I explainrd to a friend about it when he mentioned how Bamar-like Suahrto looks, he remarked: those early Tibeto-Burmans are lucky to reach and settle in free Indonesia, whereas, we, the late comers are born and held captive in Myanmar under present conditions.
But I learned later that I was mistaken and that the people in Indonesia are not Tibeto Burmans but actually part of the Austronesians_a seafaring group of people who migrated from current day Taiwan across the seas to settle in the Phillipines, Indonesia, Pacific islands and Malaysia, some even reaching India and Magadasca on the African coast. Some of their group reached Myanmar and are the Salones, a subgroup of the Moken / Sea gypsies that also live in Thailand, Malaysia and the Phillipines.
Humans have lived in Myanmar for 750,000 years, from the Anyathian to the present day Myanmar ethnic groups.

40 million year B.P. Pondaungia cottelia (Poundaung Primate) Live in Pondaung area in Lower Chindwin district
40-42 million years B.P. Mogaungensis (Amphipothecus Primate) live in Mogaung village, Pale township in Sagaing Division and in Bahin village, Myaing township in Magwe Division.
750,000- 275,000 years B.P. Lower Palaeolithic men (early Anyathian) live alone; the bank of the Ayeyawaddy river.
275,000-25,000 years B.P. Lower Palaeolithic men (late Anyathian) live along the bank of the Ayeyarwaddy river and central Myanmar
11,000 years B.P. Upper Palaeolithic men live in Badahlin caves which situated in Ywagan township in southern Shan States.
7,000 – 2,000 B.C. Neolithic men live in central Myanmar Kachin State, Shan States, Mon State, Taninthayi Division, and along the bank of the Chindwin and Ayeyarwaddy rivers.
1,000- 800 B. C. Bronze Age Culture
600 – 500 B.C. Iron Age Culture

Ages
http://www.geocities.com/resats/paleolithic.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/gerald_larue/otll/chap6.html

Lower Paleolithic 300,000-70,000 BC Old Stone Age
Middle Paleolithic 70,000-12,000 BC
Upper Paleolithic 35,000-12,000 BC
Mesolithic 12,000-10,000 BC Middle Stone Age
Holocene Neolithic 10,000-4500 BC New Stone Age
Chalcolithic 4500-3000 BC Copper Stone Age
Bronze Age 3,000-2,500 BC Early Bronze Age
2,500-2,000 BC Middle Bronze Age
2,000-1,200 BC Late Bronze Age

History of mankind in Myanmar will not be complete if the Pondaungia cottelia (Poundaung Primate), Mogaungensis (Amphipothecus Primate) and Bahinia pondaungensis are left out. Although it has been claimed that “Lu Tharr AhSa Myanmar Ka / mankind originate in Myanmar” the Pondaungia cottelia (Poundaung Primate), Mogaungensis (Amphipothecus Primate) and Bahinia pondaungensis are actually preanthropoid primates and they existed 40 m years ago and are far distant in the evolutionary stage from the hominids of the biological family Hominidae which includes not only the human genus Homo but also the genus Australopithecus (our distant ancestors) and the genus Paranthropus. All 3 genera are bipedal and habitually upright in posture.
All humans_ Homo erectus and Homo sapiens_evolved in Africa and migrated all over the world in several Out of Africa migrations.
The oldest Homo erectus date to 1.8 m years ago in East Africa and this suggests that the Homo erectus originated there. 1.7 m yr old fossil human skulls found in Dmanisi, Georgia may represent the ones that first migrated out of Africa.
There is fossil evidence that by the time the individuals the Dmanisi skulls belonged to were living in Georgia, others of their species had already traveled as far east as Java in southeast Asia. Being close to the boundary between Europe and Asia, Georgia might have been a crossroads of dispersal to the west in Europe as well as to southern and eastern Asia.
The evolution from early man Homo erectus into modern man Homo sapiens sapiens did not occur in Myanmar (Anyathian), nor in China (Peking man) and Java (Java man), but in Africa and/or the Southwest Asia.
Anatomically modern humans_Homo sapiens sapiens_ developed about 150,000 – 190,000 years ago from Homo sapiens and migrated to the Near East and then to Australasia about 60,000 years ago, to Europe and into Asia about 40,000 years ago and to the Americas about 30,000 years ago. Some of the earliest migrants to Asia travelled by a southern route along the coasts while most travelled through the land north of the Himalayas that later became the Silk Road.
TWO MIGRATION WAVES OUT OF AFRICA
a common maternal ancestor coming out of Africa existed 50,000 years ago between the people of Ethiopia and the Arabian peninsula, and India. Matches were not found in the Middle Eastern populations.

In another earlier study, it was found that an earlier migration occurred, pegged at 100,000 years ago, involving a common maternal ancestor coming out of Africa by a northern route, settling in the Mediterranean and in Greece.
According to the available archeological record, anatomically modern humans began to move out of Africa/Eurasia at least 60,000 calendar years ago.
Scientists have now identified the human lineages of the world descended from 10 sons of a genetic Adam and 18 daughters of Eve. This ancestral human population lived in Africa and started to split up 144,000 years ago. This time period is when both the mitochondrial and Y chromosome trees first branch out.
Recent DNA tests had provided clues that the Chinese males’ genes do share one similar feature with the Africans, proving that mankind did come out of Africa.
Did the 2 groups_ the modern man Homo sapiens and the earlier Homo erectus, the Anyathian_intermarry and merge into the current Myanmar population? Or did the earlier Homo erectus_the Anyathian_ become extinct?
As archaeologists and anthropologists pointed out, modern men did not come from homo erectus, nor homo sapiens (80-200 thousand years ago), but homo sapiens sapiens (20-70 thousand years ago), instead.
Recent research into mitochondrial DNA, paleoclimate, and archealogical sites help to further clarify the most recent human migration, which began at least 120,000 years ago. The mitochondrial DNA links all modern humans to a common ancestor, known as “Eve,” who lived in Africa 150,000 years ago.
Current data suggest that Homo sapiens sapiens very likely evolved from archaic Homo sapiens relatively rapidly in Africa and/or the Southwest Asia. They have been dated to 115,000-96,000 years ago at Qafzeh Cave in Israel. In South Africa, they have been found at Klasses River Mouth and Border Cave sites dating to 120,000-100,000 years ago. Since these time ranges overlap, it is not clear which area was the earliest to have modern people. However, it was not until 50,000-40,000 years ago that they began to appear in Europe and East Asia. This was during a short temperate period in the midst of the last ice age. It would seem from these dates that the location of initial modern human evolution and the direction of their dispersion from that area is obvious. That is not the case. Since the early 1980’s, there have been two leading contradictory models that attempt to explain Homo sapiens sapiens evolution–the replacement model and the regional continuity model.
Research by Oxford University and collaborators has shed new light on the last 100,000 years of human migration from Africa into Asia. The new genetic study confirms that some of the earliest migrants travelled into Asia by a southern route, possibly along the coasts of what are now Pakistan and India. The researchers identified a genetic marker in museum samples of inaccessible populations from the Andaman Islands in the Bay of Bengal. This allowed them to re-interpret previous genetic studies from the Indian sub-continent.
The Andaman Islanders have been an enigma since the early days of Victorian anthropology due to their distinctive physical appearance. They have a very short stature, dark pigmentation and tight curly hair which contrasts with settled populations practising agriculture in the region. The same features link them to other isolated populations throughout Southern Asia, many of whom are hunter-gatherers. This has lead to speculation that these groups might represent the original inhabitants of the region who have either been replaced or absorbed into more recent population expansions. More fancifully, some people have speculated that they are related to African Pygmy populations.
Relationships between different groups of people can be described by analysing mutations in mitochondrial DNA, a genetic component that is passed on maternally. The majority of people in Asia have been shown to carry mitochondrial DNA of a type known as haplogroup M, which has several subgroups and can be traced back 60,000 years. In the new study, the Andamans have been shown to belong to the M group, and most likely to its subgroup M2, which is around 53,000 years old.

This provides evidence that the Andamanese are no more related to Africans than any of the rest of Eurasian populations, and may indeed be linked to surviving hunter-gatherer groups in mainland India who also carry the M2 marker. These groups are found at high frequency in the south of India, consistent with an original settlement of Asia by a coastal route within the last 100,000 years.

Although there are still those who accept the multifocal origin of modern man, even the Chinese are now proved to share genes with Africans and accepted to have come out of Africa. Bamars and all Myanmar ethnic groups descend from the first modern humans that originated in Africa and/or the Southwest Asia and the Myanmar preanthropoid primates do not lead to the development of humans on Myanmar soil even if they do lead to the development of hominids and then to the early and modern humans elsewhere (Africa and/or the Southwest Asia).
Before the not so distant migration of the current Myanmar ethnic groups into Myanmar, eary humans were living in Myanmar since 750,000 years BP. They are the Anyathian and existed during the Lower Paleolithic age and are not modern man Homo sapiens sapiens but the earlier Homo erectus and were the counterparts of the Peking man and Java man.
Much later, modern humans Homo sapiens sapiens arrived and the first ones are the Negritos that migrated along the southern coastal route along the current Pakistan and India and also those who reached China first and then migrate south during the Upper Paleolithic age and Neolithic age. Upper Palaeolithic men live in Badahlin caves which situated in Ywagan township in southern Shan State.
Thus these 2 group of humans, the Anyarthian and current Myanmar ethnic groups arrived in Myanmar in different eras.
Of the humans that lived in Myanmar, several are no longer seen although they existed a long time ago in Myanmar and has been mentioned in Myanmar history including the inscriptions.
The earliest people who lived in Arakan were Negritos who are mentioned in the chronicles as Bilus (cannibals). They appear to have been the direct neolithic descendents of the Arakanese soil.
There is mention of Rakhites / YetKhas / Bilus / ogres in Myanmar and Rakhine chronicles including the Bilus / ogres mentioned in the myth of the origin of the MaNoke Thiha in Suvannabumi and also in the BuddhaWin and the Indian, Sri Lankan and Thai cultures. Who are they? They are said to be different from humans and ugly. Are the Bilus / ogres the Homo erectus which has now become extinct? Are they the relatives of the KatPaLis / Negritos that now exist only in the Andaman islands but must have lived along the coastal areas of the Indian ocean? Are the KatPaLis / Negritos that live in the Andaman islands the descendents of the Homo erectus? Current mitochondrial DNA evidence points to their being Homo sapiens sapiens and not Homo erectus. It seems that the KatPaLis / Negritos are the remaining descendents of the earliest human arrivals to Myanmar (and India too), the Rakhites / YetKhas / Bilus / ogres who migrated along the coast after coming out of Africa and reach Myanmar earlier than those who migrated along the Silk road to reach China and then entered Myanmar from the north.

Tibeto-Burmans, arrive 2nd into Burma. They came from eastern Tibet along Bramaputra river to Assam and Burma. They are of 3 groups: Pyu, Kanyan and Thet
A group of people known as the Pyu, who spoke a Tibeto-Burman language, began establishing city-kingdoms in northern Myanmar between the 1st century BC and AD 800.
The Pyu first settled around the Ayeyarwaddy from Tagaung to Pyay, built the first walled cities of Tagaung, Binnaka, Mongamo, Sriksetra / ThaRayKhittayar and Halingyi in Myanmar and later established the first Myanmar Empire controlling lower Myanmar including the ThaNinTharYi I / Tenessarim. The Pyus are said to be Tibeto Burmans and their language is similar to Burmese.
1st Tagaung Established by AbiYarzar who came from India. Succeeded by younger son KanYarzarNge. KanYarzarGyi went to KaleTaunNyo and stayed for 6 mths. During the period Pyus, Kanyans asked for king and his son Dusetta was installed in ThunarParanta / LeiKaing. KanYarzarGyi moved to Rakhine.
Myanmar chronicles mention the migration of AbiYarZar and his entourage from northern India Mizzimzadesh / Mizzima DayTha and settled in northern Myanmar establishing Tagaung and whose descendents ruled Tagaung until the Chinese (? Nanchaos) invaded and destroyed it. There was another migration of prince DaZa YarZar and his group from northern India Mizzimzadesh / Mizzima DayTha at the time of Buddha. They reached Malae and met queen NarGa Hsein who was living where after king Beindaka, the 33rd king of the AbiYarZar dynasty died following the retreat to Malae following the destruction of the 1st Tagaung by the Chinese / TaYoke (?Nanchaos as Chinese influence did not reach Yunnan at the time). They married after finding that both are of Tharki race and established the 2nd Tagaung.

Prince Gopala left Hastinapura in Ganges (north central India) and founded Tagaung after various wars with the Mlech-chlas. Inscribed stone slab 416 A.D. Tagaung. Buddha image with Gupta inscription.
17th king ThadoeMahaRaza of the DaZa YarZar dynasty had 2 sons MahaThambawa and SulaThambawa
Duddabaung, son of MahaThambawa, established SriKhittayar in 101 Buddhist year, 382 B.C. 9 kings Last king Thiririz
Who are the Pyus and why did the Pyus become extinct although they once controlled Myanmar? It is mentioned in the Chinese chronicles that over 3000 of the Pyus were taken to Yunnan when the Nanchao overran the Pyu capital in 832 AD. The Pyu were mentioned in the Bagan inscriptions, separate from the Myanmars so they are a different ethnic group, even if closely related, and was last seen in the Ava inscriptions but they are not seen anymore. The Pyu must be distinct from Bamars but as their lineage disappeared, they must be the minority although they ruled the nation during their time from their superior knowledge of life and warfare. It has been mentioned in Myanmar chronicles that when the Tharaykhittayar / Sriksetra fell, the population dispersed in 3 groups: Pyu, KanYam and Thet. The Thet that settled around ThanDwe TaungZin KhuNit KhaYaing became the southern Rakhines. There were Thets living en masse in the western foothills even in the Bagan era as it was recorded that the ThetMin KaTone rebelled and was subdued, apprehended and beheaded.
There were still Pyus up to the time of Innwa as some Ava inscriptions also mention the Pyus but they are no longer present nowadays. The Pyu nation extended the whole of Myanmar and include the Thanintharyi. There is now proof of it from recent excavations in the Thanintharyi, including those around Dawei. The Pyus must have ruled over the Bamars, Mons and all other ethnic groups present at the time.
What they are and why they have gone instinct, and whether there are some descendents left in the foothill regions of the Chin and Yaw areas is still a mystery
I wonder whether there is any significant difference between the genomes of different ethnic groups in Myanmar. If so, it will be a double edged weapon as one’s race can be tested in a lab!

The Mons are traditionslly considered to be the first group of current Myanmar ethnic groups to settle in Myanmar but the Rakhites / YetKhas / Bilus / ogres arrived before them but they no longer exists. The Mons are part of the Austroasiatic Mon-Khmer group that migrated down the Mekong and Thanlwin rivers to settle around their river mouths in Cambodia, Thailand and Myanmar; Khmers to the east in Cambodia and the Mons to the west in current day Thailand and Myanmar. The Khmers established the Funan, Chenla and Angkor Khmer civilizations whereas the Mons established the ancient Suvanabhumi, whose location is controversial, but is mentioned in the Maha ZaNetKa ZatTaw, one of the 10 previous human existences of Buddha / ThiekDatHta prince as the distant overseas place where ZaNetKa went to find riches and on the return journey he met a storm and was the only survivor and also the Dvaravati and Haripunjaya kingdoms in current Thailand.
Mon-Khmer migration came from Laos and Cambodia. The tribes include Wa, Tai, Palaung, Yao, Padaung, En, and Mon
The Mons, a people of Malayo-Indonesian stock, are related to the early inhabitants of Thailand and Cambodia who also spoke Mon-Khmer languages. The Mons who are considered to be the indigenous inhabitants of lower Burma, established their most significant capital at Thaton, strategically located for trade near the Gulf of Martaban and the Andaman Sea

Tibeto-Burmese migration came from the North. They include Kadu, Lashi, Atsi, Rakhine, Chins, Kachin, Sing-po, Lisu, Lahu, Kaw (Akha), Ako
Another group of Tibeto-Burman speakers, the Burmans, also had become established in the northern dry zone. They were centred on the small settlement of Pagan on the Irrawaddy River. By the mid-9th century, Pagan had emerged as the capital of a powerful kingdom that would unify Myanmar
Bamars, the majority of the population in Myanmar are part of the Tibeto Burman group which also include the Chins, Pyu and Thet. The Chin lived along a river, which later came to be known as Chindwin river. The Kadu probably drove them up the Chin Hills. Kadu occupied Tagaung or Thandwepyi of northern Myamamr. The Thet settled in Rakhine around ThanTwe and some parts of central Myanmar.
Are Bamars the descendents of the first human arrivals, the Anyathians who were Homo erectus and have been living in Myanmar for 750,000 years? Or are Bamars descendents of the modern man, the Homo sapiens sapiens that arrived 11,000 years ago? Or are Bamars a result of interbreeding between the Homo erectus and the Homo sapiens sapiens? Or did the Bamars arrive in Myanmar only in the 8th centuary AD when they fled from the Nanchaos? If so, why is there no record of such massive migration of a people in the not so distant past although Myanmar chronicles mention even the arrival of AhBi YarZar and his entourage from mizzimadesh in pre Buddha times and the arrival of the Tagaung prince who later became a Rathe and raised BayDarYi and later of the princes Maha Thambawa and Sula Thambawa to the area near Pyay, and then of PyuSawHti to Bagan.
About 800 A. D.. Bamar and its racial groups came into Myanmar along the Thanlwin river via the Nat Htate Valley in the south-east of Kyauk-se Township. At that time Thet and Kadu were living in the northern part of Myanmar at Tagaung , which was in the east of Ayeyawady river , ancient Rakhine were living at Vesali , Mon were residing at Thaton which was situated near the sea and Pyu were staying at Sri Kshetra which was near Hmaw Zar village near the town
of Pyi.

Myammar followed the route taken by the Kayins to enter Myanmar. They appeared only in the 9th century A.D. They preferred to live in the hot dry regions and so they took central Myanmar. Kyaukse area was their first home in Myanmar. Then they occupied the Minbu area. With center at Bagan, they consolidated their power in Central Myanmar and builts a king dom in the 11th century A.D.

The Burmans had originated in southwest China 3,000 years ago. They populated the Ayeyarewaddy river area through migration and the conquest of the original people of the valley, the Pyu in the 7th century
The Danu, Intha, Yaw, Dawei and Beik inhabitants and the Rakhines speak Bamar dialects and are part of the Bamar tribe and would have migrated together, earlier than or later than Bamars into Myanmar. They would have either gone in front of the Bamar migration or followed the Bamar migration and had to go ahead to find good pasture lands in their quest for YayKyiYar MyetNuYar / where the water is clearer and the grass is greener. However, some say that the Innthars are the group who settled in Inle when king AhLaungSithu took them from Dawei in his tour of the country.
I have a friend who was from Kalaw and I had always thought he is a Bamar until one day he mentioned that he is a Danu. I was surprised as he does not have any accent like other Myanmar ethnic groups or the Rakhines, YawThars, and the Dawei and Beik inhabitants. Another friend also told me about his experience with the Danus. He is a geologist and during his student days, he was sent to a field trip around Kalaw and stayed in a Danu village for the duration. Nearing the field trip, he asked his landlord / AinShin to teach him some Danu words. The landlord / AinShin laughed and told him that Danu is the same as Bamar language although pronounced a little different. Not long ago I heard of several Danu songs. I do not know whether they are specially pronounced in Bamar or whether they are in actual Danu, but I can understand them perfectly, unlike that of the Rakhines which is more different and the Yaw, Beik and Dawei dialects which I do not understand anything.
The Rakhines are the result of many migrations to the area.
The earliest people who lived in Arakan were Negritos who are mentioned in the chronicles as Bilus (cannibals). They appear to have been the direct neolithic descendents of the Arakanese soil. Later, waves of peoples of different races came into this land from the north. Late comers were the Mros and Saks, followed by the Chins, Khamis, Daingnets and the Chaungthas.
All the Arakan Chronicles mention the coming to Arakan of Indo-Aryan peoples from the Ganges valley and the founding of the cities of Dhanyawaddy and Vesali by their kings. The Indian chiefs who came over probably ruled over the the native population, gradually impressing on them their culture and religion. (Similar to the central Myanmar basin where AbiYarzar, DaZa YarZar and Gopala settling in Tagaung).
Arakanese chronicles date the history of Arakan back to 5000 BC when 2 migratory waves from the eastern part of India coming with a group settled at Kira-brin, 16 miles north of Mrauk-U, and the other settled at Dwarawaddy (Thandway). Later on the group at Thandway dispersed and joined with Kira-brin group to establish Vesali. Local dynasty ruled Vesali up to 3325 BC.
Sakkya migration into Rakhine. 1st gr: Vasudeva_ruled Dwarawady [Thantwe]. 2nd gr: Ahzona_married daughter of local chief. [son] Marayu conquered old Vesali and founded Dhanyawaddy 3000 B.C. 55 kings
In 3327 BC, savages (Rakkhaik) overtook Vesali and rendered it without a king. A group led by Marayu an Indian prince, came down the Kaladan river and subdued the savages. He then established the first city of Dhanyawaddy on the east bank of the Kaladan and began to rule Rakhine from 3325 BC. The dynasty set up by Marayu kept the throne till 1059 BC.

According to tradition Indo-Aryan people reached Arakan from India Gangha delta and settled in Kaladan Valley at the very early time. Before migrating to Arakan, those Indo-Aryan are thought to have mixed and intermarried with a migrant Mongoloid tribe in eastern India and Arakan.

An eminent Arakanese archaeologist, U San Shwe Bu, pointed out that the Indo-Aryan came to Arakan from Majjhimadesa who were living on the bank of river Ganges.
In 1531 BC, another migratory wave from Kamarupa (Assam) under Kammaraja came and settled at Kyauk-Badaung (near Paletwa, on the Kaladan). 24 years later the king came downstream and set up the second city of Dhnyawaddy in 1483 BC.
Kyauk Padaung 1507-1483 B.C. Kanyarzargyi from Tagaung settled and married 2 daughters of last Rakhine Q. 4300 ft above sea level, 14 m E of Paletwa.

Then came Kanrazagri and his twenty eight kingly descendents. He founded the second city of Dhanyawadi.
the second Dynyawaddy (1483-580 B.C.) by King Kanrazagree;
2nd Dhanyawaddy 1483-580 B.C. KanYarzarGyi moved to old site of Dhanyawaddy. 28 kings 927 yrs

Shans are part of the Tai people of Tibeto Chinese group. They lived in Yunnan before they entered Myanmar at the Maw valley. The Shan are in Myanmar before the fall of Bagan but they came in force only after ad 1300 when the Nanchao kingdom was taken over by the Chinese.
The Shan of the Shan Plateau have little ethno-linguistic affinity with the Burmans, and their society, unlike that of the plains peoples, was less elaborately structured. The Wa and the Palaung are Mon-Khmer speakers, but, because of the smallness of their numbers and their long residency on the plateau, they are sometimes confused with the Shan.

The Tai appeared historically in the 1st century AD in the Yangtze River valley. Chinese pressures forced them south until they were spread throughout the northern part of Southeast Asia. Their cultural descendants in present-day China include the Pai-i, Lü, and Nua in Yunnan, the Chung-chia (or Puyi) in Kweichow Province, and the Chuang-chia (or Chuang) in Kwangsi Chuang Autonomous Region. Tai cultural identity has remained strongest among the Shan of Myanmar, the Thai (or Siamese) of Thailand, and the Lao.
The Shan inhabit most of the Shan Plateau area of Myanmar, concentrated in the autonomous Shan State. Traditionally, they have been ruled by princes (saohpas, or sawbwas) with semidivine attributes, but the princes have lost most of their former autonomy.

Tai-Chinese (Shan) migration is the last and they came from Yunnan. They sacked Bagan 1299, and controlled upper Myanmar from 12th-15th century AD. They do not evolve into a nation and are ruled by 33 SawBwas.
Shan State is populated by 4 m people of 33 hill tribes, 35 races.
Ethnic Shans consist of 50% of Shan States. With 4 m people they are the 2nd largest ethnic group in Myanmar.
Palaungs live in the NW ranges.
Kachins in the north
Kaws (Akha) live in the extreme NE
Wa live in NE ranges
Padaungs live in the SW

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Kachins are part of the Tibeto- Burmans and are the group most close to the Tibetians and entered Myanmar in about 16th century A.D. They live in northern Myanmar from the Kachin to the Shan states and also live in Yunnan. There are many Kachin tribes but the Jingphaws are the majority and also include the Rawans who settle further north around Putao.
Although the Lisu / LiShaw are considered to be part of the Kachins their culture is more closely related to Chinese and I have not read about them being included in the Tibeto- Burmans as the Kachins are.
LaWaw / MaRu are closer to Bamars and the Kachins closer to Tibetians in the Tibeto Burman group range.
The Karens have a history of migration before they reached Myanmar.
Kayins belonged to the Tibeto- Chinese family. They came into Myanmar from the north along the Salween rivers, passed the southern Shan state entered the plains of Myanmar by about the 7th century AD.
The Karen year is signifant as it was counted from 739 BC (2007 = 2745 Karen year). It is not clear what the occasion was that led to the counting of the Karen calendar that year although some took it to be the year the Karens settled in Myanmar while others hold that the Karens entered the plains of Myanmar only in the 7th century AD; if so, 739 BC might be another occasion, maybe the beginning of the Karen migration from their original homeland.
The Karen oral traditions refer to crossing a river of “running sand” as an important event in their history. There are Chinese courses which refer to the Gobi Desert as the “River of sand”, and it is probable that the Karen originated in an area bordering Tibet, crossed the Gobi Desert into China, and gradually made their way into the mountainous areas of Burma.
Historically, the Karen descends from the same ancestors as the Mongolian people. The earliest Karens settled in Htee-set Met Ywa (land of flowing sands) a land bordering the source of the Yang-Tse-Kiang River in the Gobi Desert. From there, we migrated southwards and gradually entered the land now known as Burma about 739 BC.
We were, according to most historians, the first settlers in this new land. The Karen named this land Kaw-Lah, meaning the green land. We began to peacefully clear and till our land free from all hindrances. Our labors were fruitful and we were very happy with our lot. So we changed the name of the land to Kawthoolei, a land free of all evils, famine, misery and strife: Kawthoolei, a pleasant, plentiful and peaceful country. Here we lived characteristically uneventful and peaceful lives, before the advent of the Burma.
The Pho Karen subgroup includes the Pa’O and Pwo languages in Burma and several other languages in Thailand. The Pa’O are the second most numerous ethnic group in the Shan State of Myanmar (Burma) after the Shans themselves. Both Pa’O and Pho are categorised as Southern Karen. Some 600,000 Pa’O live in the southwest of Shan State from the slopes of the mountains near Kalaw up to Thaton region at the foothills of the Bago Yoma ranges.
Kayas were the same group of Kayin, lived in the lower east of Myanmar.

DANU
Only a few thousand Danus exist and they live in Kalaw, Pindaya and Pyin-U-Lwin areas.
Their language is a dialect of Burmese.
INTHA
Inthas are people living on Inle Lake.
There is a saying that they are descendents of people who fled from Dawei to escape wars during the 18th Century.
Their language closely resembles the Myanmar.

Khin Khin Kyawt Intha were from Dawei captured by Myanmar King Alaung Si Thu and made them slaves of the pagoda he built on Inle lake.

Myanmar chronicles mention the migration of AbiYarZar and his entourage from northern India Mizzimzadesh / Mizzima DayTha and settled in northern Myanmar establishing Tagaung and whose descendents ruled Tagaung until the Chinese (? Nanchaos) invaded and destroyed it.

Ko Ko Gyi I think Sino-Shan or Shan-Tayoke would be more correct as NanCho Shans also involved.

Ko Ko Gyi TQ saya. May I SHARE this article in my blog.

Nyi Win thanks all for your interest in my notes

Nyi Win
sayar Ko Ko Gyi, please do SHARE my notes in your blog
thank you for appreciating and wanting to spreading it
I welcome all to share or resend my notes and blogs anytime without needing to ask for my approval
I believe in transfer of Free know…ledge and expression of a thousand thoughts
I read about the 2 school of thoughts on the internet and computers
those who want to make a profit and demand patents and royalties, like Microsoft and Windows
and those who want to share and develop the knowledge and technology of everything including programs and softwares, such as Linux
I am of the free knowledge and technology group
I am sorry for the delay in reply
I was out of regular FB contact for the last month as I was home and the internet was not good in Myanmar, but I managed to post my notes on the night of the 7th Nov
and I had not logged in till today

Harry Hpone Thant
Ko Nyi,
As I had told you before, please see the original book by Sayargyi U Min Naing on the ethnic groups of Myanmar and their migration history. The book is very rare and you might not be able to get it. maybe there might be a book or two… at Pansodan. But the version in English, as translated by me, is still available at Myanmar Book Centre in Yangon. The title is “National Ethnic Groups of Myanmar” Sayargyi U Min Naing devoted his whole life to the study of ethnic groups in Myanmar and had left a treasure trove of his original oil/water colour painting and we were about to publish it. Had photographed all of the paintings but before we could do that U Min Naing died and his heirs quarreled among themselves and we were unsuccessful. The photos are still with us in MM but cannot publish.

Nyi Win ko Harry, thanks for your information and the translation effort you had contributed for the knowledge of ethnic groups of Myanmar and their migration history

Trace Htun Very interesting read U Nyi. Thank you especially for informative notes on Palaeolithic anthropological finds in Burma.

Nyi Win
Trace, you will find mesolithic and neolithic articles at the following urls

Preliminary Report on the Discovery of Mesolithic Tools in Shinma-daung Area, Central Myanmar


https://aomar.wordpress.com/20…09/03/24/the-neolithic-culture-of-the-padah-lin-caves/

and other articles on Myanmar archeology at the
Association Of Myanmar Archaeologists
Myanmar Archaeology Students Blog
https://aomar.wordpress.com/

Harry Hpone Thant
Ko Nyi,
There are some villages in the Htilin-Gantgaw area who say they are Pyus. I have not been to their villages. They are said to be in the Pondaung Pon Nya ranges but had seen them on the road when I was going to Haka from Pakokku. Ther…e is a stop on the way near a Nat shrine(I forgot the name) at the top of a steep incline and a log truck had overturned and all were stuck. There I met a group of villagers and their speech was very strange and when I asked them they told me they are Pyus and told me they are on their way to Bagan on pilgrimage.There was also one TV story/show on Myawaddy I think based on this village. I just forgot the name of the village. I had overnighted at Kyaw village twice and the people there also said there are Pyu villages nearby. Kyaw village is just before you get to the Pondaung-Ponnya Railways Tunnel under the Pondaung-Ponnya Range on the Pakokku-Gantgaw-Haka Raikways. Anyway there are some villages around on the west bank of the Chindwin near Patohlon Stream(you will know the place. It is where the MM-Chinese geologist recently found big gas deposits) and where the displaced court officials settled when they fled Mandalay in 1885.And the Chins have a saying “Chin Hman Bagan Ga”. The Chins say they fled to the west of the Ayeyarwady after a quarrel with a Bagan king and the word Popa is related to a Chin word. I got this from a Chin shaman(a nat sayar) from Mindat when I was there to document a Chin wedding for my Enchanting Myanmar magazine.

Nyi Win
ko Harry, thanks for the information on the villages in the Htilin-Gantgaw area that might one day be proved to be the Pyu descendents
I read an article about it in a Myanmar journal not long ago and had photocopied it
it remains for the anth…ropologists to make investigations and make public report, whatever the outcome
maybe they had already done something

Harry Hpone Thant Could you scan and send this article to me pls? But as far as I know there were no anthropological surveys done there. Most were around Hanlin and Nyaung gan. Have you seen my article on the Pyu cemetery at Nyaung Gan? Pls follow the link.http://www.enchantingmyanmar.com/tag/archaeology/. I have some photos too of the skeletons and the stone bangles.

Nyi Win ko Harry, the photocopy is at my home
the original journal was here in the Mann office
I will look for it and scan / photograph and send it to you if I find it here again or when I go back home on days off in 9-Dec

xxxx
Ko Ko Gyi
TQ Mr Harry Hpone Thant for the interesting comment.
When even the famous historian Dr Than Tun’s most of the books I had read had stated that the Pyus had disappeared and assimilated with new migrant Myanmars migrated from Yunnan. It is qu…ite interesting.

As I am away from Myanmar but life is sometimes strange enough, I now have a chance to see patients from numerous ethnic minorities and from almost all the different places of Myanmar, here in KL. Recently I have seen few strange looking Myanmars with curious accent from the villahes near Taungope. They are darker and facial features are Tibeto-Burman but different from Bama, Rakhine, Chin and totally different from Chinese and Indian features. They are speaking the Myanmar language with a strange accent. I know the accents of Rakhines, Danu, Inthas, Tavoy, Mons very well. I suspect that may be they were the descendants of Pyu and asking my patients from Taungope. They told me that there were strange looking/speaking few villages on the hills near their town.
By the way when I enquire about Pashus of Myanmar, I got a very few facts only.
Kindly allow to copy your comment and share in my blog.

Harry Hpone Thant I will be honoured to let you share my comments.Pashus are, in my limited knowledge, Malays. When we were young we were always afraid of the Pashus Gaung Hpyat!I am trying to trace back the name of the villages(the so called Pyu villages) around the western Chindwin and the eastern foothills of the Chin Hills. Please also visit my website http://www.enchantingmyanmar.com/. I had posted many articles on Myanmar’s nature, culture and traditions there.

Ni Ni Sein Very interesting conversation. My husband’s hobby was hunting. He told me about the villagers who speak strange burmese near Mahamyaing forest. He said that those people were the group of people ( ? mandalay palace)who hide in the forest when the english colonised burma in 1885.

Harry Hpone Thant
I have been in the Mahamyaing forest on my way to the Naga Hills via Hkamti by land route from Mandalay, though I had not been able to take my time and do some inquisitive conversations with the villagers. I have been to Thetke Kyin, Mauk k…a daw etc.There is a saying that “Pyaw lo Mingin, Nay lo Taung dwin, Thay lo Mauk ka daw” It means if you want to have a jolly life go to Mingin, if you want to settle down forever go to Taung dwin and if you want to die go to Mauk ka daw.Taung dwin is a village in the Taungdwin Valley of Taung dwin Chaung near Mingin where the displaced people from the Mandalay court settled after 1855. They still practice some ancient rituals. Mauk ka daw is on the banks of the Chindwin and malaria-infested so very dangerous for your health. It is at the edge of the Maha myaing forest and produces very good natural honey.At dusk troops of monkeys would sit in the middle of the road and hold a pow wow!Also most of the owls sold at Sagaing Kaung Hmu Daw pagoda for people to buy and set loose are caught in the Maha myaing forest.